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Post by Archive » June 26th, 2019, 8:13 pm

posted by Dioxaz on Nov 17, 2017:

Back from a deep sleep. Dug out and settled my Mega PC again after moving out and thus having much more room. I'm glad to inform that I found a valid solution for displaying both the PC and Mega Drive parts of the Mega PC on any kind of monitor. I tried many solutions, including a Gonbes 8200 (slightly blurry and imperfect line-doubling, even at 60Hz), an Extron DVS 304 (only games running at 256x224 and 256x192 would show a picture...) and a Wei-Ya ACV-011.

It's the last one who gave me the best results. It can be ordered here ($50 with free shipping) among others: https://sintron-hk.com/Wei-ya-ACV-011-CGA-to-VGA-video-converter-P2699910.aspx

What this unit does is clean line-doubling: 15KHz transformed into 31KHz. Results isn't perfect yet (picture distorted at the top and some interferences are to note sometimes) but picture looks really nice IMO. DIP switches settings that give the best results are setting 14, OOXO. Setting 16 is to avoid as the top of the picture gets funnelled and the picture randomly disappears for 1 or 2 seconds.

Some pictures here: https://imgur.com/a/SrJhZ

Also, I took the opportunity to upgrade my unit with an 486SLC motherboard too! Except... there's a little problem as this is an earlier revision with an identical layout to the original 386 one (same chips everywhere, including the Western Digital 90C11, but with the 512K of video RAM already built-in) and only running at 25MHz instead of 33. There is a performance increase but it's not as drastic. That "new" motherboard has some incompatibilities if using an SB16 Value sound card. You can't use low DMA at 1 or some games will play their sound effects with a stuck loop (I had to set it to 3). Another minor issue, the PLAY.EXE audio player (from the SB16 software itself) randomly crashes the machine when attempting to play a 16-bit WAV file after an 8-bit one now.

The other good news is that my original battery didn't leak despite letting the machine off for way too long. The one from the 486SLC motherboard didn't leak either but was dead. I did my battery replacement job (with an Amigakit CR2032 holder) on the 486SLC one and left the original motherboard with no battery.

For the info, the 486SLC motherboard comes from an Amstrad PC7486SLC80 base unit (where the 80 is the HDD capacity, not the clock speed!) I bought from eBey.

I might add some other pictures to that album later. I also hope to upload a video of the whole disassembly, motherboard and battery replacement process but with my usual laziness, it's not that easy. Image

Edit: Just thinking about it now, does anyone here happens to still have all the software pre-installed on the Mega PC's original hard drive? I'd like to put my hands on that cool front-end menu (there's a screenshot of it on the PC7386SX manual cover) and that tutorial that I used to play around with younger. The only thing I could find till now to download is Counterpoint (I still have the SVGA utility disks, as far as I remember).
 

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posted by DeChief on Nov 17, 2017:

Dioxaz said:






Back from a deep sleep. Dug out and settled my Mega PC again after moving out and thus having much more room. I'm glad to inform that I found a valid solution for displaying both the PC and Mega Drive parts of the Mega PC on any kind of monitor. I tried many solutions, including a Gonbes 8200 (slightly blurry and imperfect line-doubling, even at 60Hz), an Extron DVS 304 (only games running at 256x224 and 256x192 would show a picture...) and a Wei-Ya ACV-011.

It's the last one who gave me the best results. It can be ordered here ($50 with free shipping) among others: https://sintron-hk.com/Wei-ya-ACV-011-CGA-to-VGA-video-converter-P2699910.aspx

What this unit does is clean line-doubling: 15KHz transformed into 31KHz. Results isn't perfect yet (picture distorted at the top and some interferences are to note sometimes) but picture looks really nice IMO. DIP switches settings that give the best results are setting 14, OOXO. Setting 16 is to avoid as the top of the picture gets funnelled and the picture randomly disappears for 1 or 2 seconds.

Some pictures here: https://imgur.com/a/SrJhZ

Also, I took the opportunity to upgrade my unit with an 486SLC motherboard too! Except... there's a little problem as this is an earlier revision with an identical layout to the original 386 one (same chips everywhere, including the Western Digital 90C11, but with the 512K of video RAM already built-in) and only running at 25MHz instead of 33. There is a performance increase but it's not as drastic. That "new" motherboard has some incompatibilities if using an SB16 Value sound card. You can't use low DMA at 1 or some games will play their sound effects with a stuck loop (I had to set it to 3). Another minor issue, the PLAY.EXE audio player (from the SB16 software itself) randomly crashes the machine when attempting to play a 16-bit WAV file after an 8-bit one now.

The other good news is that my original battery didn't leak despite letting the machine off for way too long. The one from the 486SLC motherboard didn't leak either but was dead. I did my battery replacement job (with an Amigakit CR2032 holder) on the 486SLC one and left the original motherboard with no battery.

For the info, the 486SLC motherboard comes from an Amstrad PC7486SLC80 base unit (where the 80 is the HDD capacity, not the clock speed!) I bought from eBey.

I might add some other pictures to that album later. I also hope to upload a video of the whole disassembly, motherboard and battery replacement process but with my usual laziness, it's not that easy. Image

Edit: Just thinking about it now, does anyone here happens to still have all the software pre-installed on the Mega PC's original hard drive? I'd like to put my hands on that cool front-end menu (there's a screenshot of it on the PC7386SX manual cover) and that tutorial that I used to play around with younger. The only thing I could find till now to download is Counterpoint (I still have the SVGA utility disks, as far as I remember).

Neat converter! I might get one if this monitor that I just won on eBay turns out to not support 15 and 31khz, but I'm hopeful - it's a Microvitech branded monitor that was often rebranded for Acorn computers, and I believe for Amigas as well. I couldn't get a sound card working on my Mega PC's 486SLC board either, but I don't know if it's the same board as yours now that I think about it. I haven't used the damn thing in an eternity!
 

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posted by saxabar on Nov 28, 2017:

Mr. Sound-About said:







Update: My Mega PC's ISA Mega Drive card is now 60Hz modded thanks to Ronnie, so I can now play games at the proper USA speed as God intended. Image I can confirm that the 60Hz mode displays fine on the bundled Amstrad monitor.

Wow, very well! Could you share how to mod it?
Thanks
 

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posted by DeChief on Dec 7, 2017:

DeChief said:






Neat converter! I might get one if this monitor that I just won on eBay turns out to not support 15 and 31khz, but I'm hopeful - it's a Microvitech branded monitor that was often rebranded for Acorn computers, and I believe for Amigas as well. I couldn't get a sound card working on my Mega PC's 486SLC board either, but I don't know if it's the same board as yours now that I think about it. I haven't used the damn thing in an eternity!

The monitor arrived, and it works great! There's a chunk of colour missing in the top left of the monitor though, only in Mega Drive mode - PC mode works perfectly. It doesn't affect gameplay, just looks a bit odd. Image




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Wow, very well! Could you share how to mod it?
Thanks

Yes, please! I was testing some Japanese MD games in it and it was painful trying to play Sonic 2, it needs modding...
 

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posted by Dioxaz on Dec 8, 2017:

DeChief said:






The monitor arrives, and it works great! There's a chunk of colour missing in the top left of the monitor though, only in Mega Drive mode - PC mode works perfectly. It doesn't affect gameplay, just looks a bit odd. Image


That's great news. That's one more monitor to mark as Mega PC compliant.



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Yes, please! I was testing some Japanese MD games in it and it was painful trying to play Sonic 2, it needs modding...

The Mega PC ISA card uses a Sega 315-5487 chip which is the same used on VA0 and VA1 Mega Drive II systems, VA7 Mega Drive I ones. So it has the same pinout, and according to the Mega PC service manual, it can be easily modded to output 60Hz (and perhaps CSYNC).

I also discovered by tracing the PCB that you only have to dissolder a black wire on the upper lower part of the board to make it ouput 60Hz! I don't know if all Mega PC ISA card have that last minute fix, but I think it's worth to look at if you'd like to see your Mega PC running at 60Hz. Indeed, that transforms your machine into an American Genesis. I recommend putting a 50-60Hz switch in order to retain European games compatibility.

Until I decide making that picture gallery I was talking about earlier, here are some old photos I made from 2008 to 2012. They show PCB close-ups and picture viewing while plugged to a CRT TV (using vga2tv and a CSYNC circuit): http://dioxaz.free.fr/download/index.php?dir=megapc/pics/

I think the wire you have to dissolder in order to have 60Hz is the black one next to the Z80 CPU, as seen on photo P9010333.JPG. is the wire located on the lower part of the board and brdging R75 and C43, as shown on this picture (note, it's already dissoldered here): DSC_0291.JPG

Edit: sorry I gave a wrong info earlier, I actually removed my board again to double-check and now it's correct
 

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posted by saxabar on Dec 7, 2017:

Dioxaz said:






That's great news. That's one more monitor to mark as Mega PC compliant.
I also discovered by tracing the PCB that you only have to dissolder a black wire on the upper of the card to make it ouput 60Hz! I don't know if all Mega PC ISA card have that last minute fix, but I think it's worth to look at if you'd like to see your Mega PC running at 60Hz. Indeed, that transforms your machine into an American Genesis. I recommend putting a 50-60Hz switch in order to retain European games compatibility.

Unfortunately it doesn't work, without the black wire is still 50hz
 

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posted by Mr. Sound-About on Dec 7, 2017:

saxabar said:






Could you share how to mod it?

No, because I didn't do the mod myself. Quoted from my previous message (which in fact you quoted too):
"My Mega PC's ISA Mega Drive card is now 60Hz modded thanks to Ronnie"
 

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posted by DeChief on Dec 7, 2017:

Mr. Sound-About said:






No, because I didn't do the mod myself. Quoted from my previous message (which in fact you quoted too):
"My Mega PC's ISA Mega Drive card is now 60Hz modded thanks to Ronnie"

Then can @Ronnie share how to mod it? Image
 

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posted by Dioxaz on Dec 8, 2017:

I'd like to know too. Image



saxabar said:






Unfortunately it doesn't work, without the black wire is still 50hz

That black wire must trace to pin 46 on the Sega 315-5487 chip by following the PCB traces (pin 46 is labelled "NTSC" according the service manual). It was the case with mine. I don't know if all boards have that same quick fix. Also, I'll have to check again which exact wire have to be dissoldered (my memories might be off, but I don't remember being other wires on my board).
 

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Post by Archive » June 26th, 2019, 8:13 pm

posted by Bad_Ad84 on Dec 8, 2017:

It could be that you need to connect it to VCC, otherwise it could just be floating.

(so move wire from leg of capacitor its on, to the other leg)
 

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