1080p vs 720p upscaled rendering advantages

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posted by Midnight Milkshake on Aug 20, 2008:

¿Nobody talks about the gaming lag? it's a really big problem, especially if you want to play technical games of past generations, or even, of this gen. I wanted to buy a Pioneer Kuro plasma, and it has lag even with game mode activated.
 

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posted by Barc0de on Aug 20, 2008:

ah yes, what's with the lag btw? i noticed it when i put my 360 in 1080p on a Phillips! game mode fixed the issue though fully
 

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posted by mairsil on Aug 20, 2008:

The display lag is generally not going to be affected as much by scaling the image (in my experience) as it is by DSP's processing the image for the display technology itself (e.g. analog->digital conversion, digital->DLP/LCD). Though a very poorly implemented/underpowered scaler could be a problem.
 

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posted by randyrandall on Aug 20, 2008:

I was really worried about lag but I dont even notice it (though i know its there) with my Wii on my 19" Samsung TFT.. even on Smash Bros Brawl it doesnt affect us.
 

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posted by Midnight Milkshake on Aug 20, 2008:

The lag is also related to the resolution, check these links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input_lag

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=94426

Barcode, the only tvs without lag, or very low (less than 30 milliseconds, which is almost 2 frames), that i've found until now are Sony KDL40W4000, Panasonic TH50PZ81 and Samsung LE32A656. you can check the reviews here:

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/

And If you want to check the lag:

http://tft.vanity.dk/inputlag.html

You have to connect your laptop to the screen, or have a PC with two video outputs; if you can connect one to a CRT monitor you'll get better results, because it will not have lag. You need the main screen on mirror mode, start the clock, and then, make a photo of the two screens; one of them will be slower, so you'll only have to check the difference between, and you'll get the lag of your screen.
 

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posted by andoba on Aug 20, 2008:

Midnight Milkshake said:




The lag is also related to the resolution, check these links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input_lag

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=94426

Barcode, the only tvs without lag, or very low (less than 30 milliseconds, which is almost 2 frames), that i've found until now are Sony KDL40W4000, Panasonic TH50PZ81 and Samsung LE32A656. you can check the reviews here:

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/

And If you want to check the lag:

http://tft.vanity.dk/inputlag.html

How does the lag checker work?
 

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posted by Midnight Milkshake on Aug 20, 2008:

I've just edited.
 

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posted by CrAzY on Aug 21, 2008:

Barc0de said:




ah yes, what's with the lag btw? i noticed it when i put my 360 in 1080p on a Phillips! game mode fixed the issue though fully

Hey Barc0de. I sort of recently got a 47 In. Phillips that supports 1080i and 1080p. =] But I was wondering where you select this game mode at? I have heard about it... but maybe only some models have it? :crying:
 

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posted by Barc0de on Aug 21, 2008:

well it's in the smart settings thing i think. The one i m talking about has ambilight and is quite recent..
 

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posted by CrAzY on Aug 21, 2008:

That must be it... because I searched everywhere for that damn Game Mode. Ahhh well, I have actually gotten used to the Lag. Thanks anyway! :nod: